Eu am alt\u0103 viziune.
\n Deocamdat\u0103, de m-a\u0219 \u00eenchipui parte procesual\u0103, a\u0219 considera probele aduse \u00een instan\u021b\u0103 personale. De-a\u0219 vrea s\u0103 le fac \u201euitate\u201d, renun\u021bate, a\u0219 interzice altora s\u0103 fac\u0103 uz de ele. Dar nu sunt. Drept pentru care Art. 257 le ia \u0219i i le d\u0103 p\u0103r\u021bii adverse – nu \u0219tiu procedura -, astfel \u00eenc\u00e2t aceasta \u201e… poate s\u0103 \u0219i le \u00eensu\u0219easc\u0103.\u201d. \u00cen limbaj advers \u0219i argotic: \u201eM\u0103, s\u0103 mori tu?\u201d. Cum legea e lege \u0219i instan\u021ba suveran\u0103 \u0219i independent\u0103 la ea acas\u0103, face-vom ce zice. Asta fiindc\u0103 ea \u00eens\u0103\u0219i poate dispune de administrarea probei declinate de partea ce a adus-o din oficiu.
\n Admisibilitatea probelor se face dup\u0103 \u201ecalendarul\u201d de dovezi aduse \u00een sprijinul sau detrimentul probelor la Art. 255. Cu excep\u021bia de la regul\u0103 \u201e… c\u00e2nd ar exista pericolul ca ele s\u0103 se piard\u0103 prin \u00eent\u00e2rziere.\u201d. Proasp\u0103t\u0103 fiind parcurgerea 255-ului, am re\u021binut – f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 \u0219i consemnez anterior – c\u0103 temporizarea ob\u021binerii informa\u021biilor, sus\u021binerea probelor se cere doar autorit\u0103\u021bilor locale prin \u00eencadrarea \u201e… \u00een termenul stabilit…\u201d. Pentru \u00eencuviin\u021barea probelor, \u00eencheiere de instan\u021b\u0103, ce va cuprinde \u0219i \u201e… va ar\u0103ta faptele ce vor trebuie dovedite, mijloacele de prob\u0103 \u00eencuviin\u021bate…\u201d \u0219i obliga\u021bii pentru p\u0103r\u021bi privind administrarea. Cu Al. 3 sunt de acord doar dac\u0103 martorii to\u021bi ar oferi acelea\u0219i informa\u021bii, nu de importan\u021b\u0103 capital\u0103 \u0219i nu \u00een cantitate mare \u0219i suficient\u0103 elucid\u0103rii \u0219i rezolv\u0103rii cazului. Da, astfel ar fi pertinent\u0103 limitarea num\u0103rului de martori propu\u0219i. Art. 258.
\n Ar fi ea \u201e\u00eemprejurare\u201d, dar juridic e mai cur\u00e2nd fapt apari\u021bia unor noi probe care s\u0103 fac\u0103 inutil\u0103 o prob\u0103 sau mai multe dintre cele deja \u00eencuviin\u021bate, motiv pentru care instan\u021ba poate reveni asupra \u00eent\u00e2ii hot\u0103r\u00e2ri. Deci, fraza \u201eInstan\u021ba este obligat\u0103 s\u0103 pun\u0103 aceast\u0103 \u00eemprejurare \u00een discu\u021bia p\u0103r\u021bilor.\u201d poate avea beneficii lingvistice \u0219i ra\u021bionale prin \u00eenlocuirea cu \u201eacest fapt\u201d. Art. 259.
\n Ideea Al. 1, Art. 260 are vechime \u0219i este o repetare. Ordinea administr\u0103rii probelor se face de c\u0103tre instan\u021b\u0103. \u00cen fapt, tot articolul revine cu cutumele acordate probelor. Ba \u00een \u0219edin\u021ba \u00een care au fost \u00eencuviin\u021bate, ba la alte termene – asigurare de martori, expertize, aducere de \u00eenscrisuri etc. -, ba \u00eenainte de dezbaterea fondului. Dovezile \u0219i contrariul \u00een aceea\u0219i \u0219edin\u021b\u0103. Cercetare la fa\u021ba locului \u00eenaintea celorlalte probe. Prob\u0103 cu martori \u0219i dovada contrar\u0103 \u00een aceea\u0219i \u0219edin\u021b\u0103, de asemenea, dar s\u0103 fie ambele p\u0103r\u021bi prezente (ca s\u0103 mai pun stop lui \u201ede fa\u021b\u0103\u201d). Absentului nu i se ia dreptul la ripost\u0103. De\u0219i nu a putut veni la termenul \u00een care o prob\u0103 a fost administrat\u0103, va aduce argumente contra la primul termen de \u00eenf\u0103\u021bi\u0219are sau la care termen va putea, \u00een cazul \u00een care ceva \u00eel \u00eempiedic\u0103 s\u0103 ajung\u0103.
\n Obiceiul legal dispune prezentarea probelor \u00een fa\u021ba instan\u021bei, \u00een \u0219edin\u021b\u0103 public\u0103. Excep\u021biile, unde se stabile\u0219te \u0219i \u00een ce mod. Curiozitatea m\u0103 determin\u0103 s\u0103 \u00eentreb unde, fiindc\u0103 Al. 2 nu precizeaz\u0103, doar formeaz\u0103 o comisie rogatorie de la o instan\u021b\u0103 de acela\u0219i grad ori mai mic\u0103, c\u00e2nd nu \u00een instan\u021ba propus\u0103 ar putea avea loc procesul, ci \u00een afara localit\u0103\u021bii unde se afl\u0103 instan\u021ba \u0219i aceasta nu dispune de o astfel de institu\u021bie. Iar dac\u0103, tot 2 continu\u0103, se \u00eenvoiesc p\u0103r\u021bile, deci, se vrea \u0219i se poate, administrarea probelor – ea este motivul schimb\u0103rii – se poate face \u0219i f\u0103r\u0103 prezen\u021ba p\u0103r\u021bilor. Nici Al. 3 nu elucideaz\u0103 locul. Doar g\u0103se\u0219te \u00een localitatea respectiv\u0103 o alt\u0103 instan\u021b\u0103, comisiei rogatorii formate i se taie por\u021bia \u0219i pe cale administrativ\u0103 se cere acelei instan\u021be s\u0103 formeze ea o comisie rogatorie pentru \u00eens\u0103rcinarea administr\u0103rii probelor, cu procedura deja stabilit\u0103. Al. 5, dup\u0103 c\u00e2te opineaz\u0103, transfer\u0103, dup\u0103 probe, procesul instan\u021bei ce le-a administrat, \u201e… pentru dezbaterea fondului.\u201d, dac\u0103 este cazul. Art. 261.
\n Vrei dreptate? Pl\u0103te\u0219ti. Costurile administr\u0103rii probelor, c\u00e2nd \u201e… necesit\u0103 cheltuieli…\u201d revine p\u0103r\u021bii ce a adus-o \u00een instan\u021b\u0103. Va depune \u201e… la gref\u0103…\u201d, cam imediat sau cel t\u00e2rziu p\u00e2n\u0103 la termenul fixat pentru administrare, \u201e… dovada achit\u0103rii sumei stabilite pentru acoperirea lor.\u201d. Chiar din oficiu admise probe, chiar la cererea procurorului, tot \u201eprostul\u201d pl\u0103te\u0219te ori chiar ambele p\u0103r\u021bi. Nu dai banul, te-ai lins pe bot de prob\u0103 \u0219i administrarea ei vreodat\u0103. La alineatul urm\u0103tor este de ne\u00een\u021beles plata dup\u0103 dep\u0103\u0219irea termenului fixat, coroborat cu dec\u0103derea \u0219i faptul c\u0103 astfel \u201e… nu se am\u00e2n\u0103 judecata.\u201d. Logic, ar \u00eensemna c\u0103 nu se mai decade, c\u0103 se p\u0103suie\u0219te \u0219i se administreaz\u0103 proba la termen sau la urm\u0103torul, sau c\u0103 se mut\u0103 \u0219edin\u021ba, f\u0103r\u0103 s\u0103 se considere am\u00e2nare, la alt\u0103 dat\u0103. Era de a\u0219teptat ca Al. 5 s\u0103 fixeze acelea\u0219i reguli de c\u0103p\u0103t\u00e2i, de la acest Art. 262, \u0219i comisiei rogatorii de la Art. 261.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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